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 Post subject: IS CHOMSKY "EVIL" ?
PostPosted: 2008-06-29, 06:21:43 pm 
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Sounds ridiculous, but some idiot has said it - so do we ignore the idiot or not ?

http://greglange.blogspot.com/2008/06/m ... nsult.html

Sounds like other idiots who throw around the term "Axis of Evil" with gay abandon...

Here is what this particular idiot, Greg, calls, "evil" :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGd0t8v-d4

Reply Yeah exactly, and I read Noam's books and I totally agree with him on U.S failed States and foreign policy, but I would have to disagree with him on his 9/11 book. He's brilliant and it baffles me that he never mentions physical evidence that MIT engineers pointed out on the WTC buildings. Instead he emphasizes on the reactions of people of high power, leaving us to question authority rather than the event itself.

Reply Noam doesn't have hard evidence on 9/11. He only provides his words. He blames the authoritarian world powers for pretexts to use violence on other people, he says that 9/11 was predictable, but fails to point out hard evidence. It's like Einstein explaining relativity without his mathematical proof.

Reply Even the 9/11 commission had no hard evidence on the events of 9/11. We question this and that, but what it all boils down to is that; the worlds most powerful country's defenses, that we as taxpayers support, were limited to that of the third world people we let take down three targets and thousands of our own innocent citizens hours apart. We should be damned shamed to point the finger at anyone but the people we pay to defend us...Our own government. You are not safe.

Reply Hey warcrime911 -- what's with people like you? you just can't accept the truth so you put people like Noam in this category of "they are not telling the truth about 911 because it will help our cause in the long run... blah blah blah" --- that's is such a retarded excuse. LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING UP. THEY DON'T NEED TO HIDE BEHIND SUPPOSED WORDS BETWEEN THE LINES. CHOMSKY IS A COWARD, PERIOD.

Reply Hey innermysteries...Shut up ... PERIOD.

Reply This video's title is wrong. The question he's answering isn't about a 9/11 conspiracy. His comments are about Bush and other world powers benefiting from those attacks to further oppression. Where's the conspiracy? It's simply a matter of Bush and Co. taking full advantage of the huge gift from those flaming jets.

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 Post subject: Re: IS CHOMSKY "EVIL" ?
PostPosted: 2008-06-29, 07:38:47 pm 
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I think Greg lost me when he wrote ::

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...think about the most evil people that have ever lived and think of what those people have done. Think about Adolf Hitler...


C'mon, Chomsky is just a thinker, whether you agree with him or not.

Bandying around words like "Hitler", in comparison, is just plain lazy... and somewhat predictable. http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/06/25/winner-4/

Now, a measure of perspective from the author would be most welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: IS CHOMSKY "EVIL" ?
PostPosted: 2008-06-29, 08:42:50 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUXG6031oL4

Reply from an anarcho guy here, i say glory to god(or whatever, life!!) for this prophet in our times, and like all prphets of his time speaks in clear common language.
no angry young anarchist here, but a calm and thoughtful, compassionate man..
when will hearts like these be heeded?
and when will the angry young men hating corporates, begin to LIVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS BETTER instead of pissing us of with their venom..... thanx and glory to life

Reply it always amazes me how people, when told the cold, unadulterated truth, by people like Chomsky, scream and literally throw temper tantrums in denial. bullshit ideologies are made of a dense fiber i suppose.

Reply yep you got it!! very true!
heads in the sand, we all do it to some extent, it should come as NO SUPRISE...
and also, it means folk accepting the challenge that EVERYTHING they have built and dreamed up has been in vain and they need a whole new show, well, its kinda hard for most to admit that...

Reply the leftist is the good side the right is the evil

Reply ...aaaa...and you're an idiot. Go vote for hilary and await the coming of the new world order.

Reply what a load of pish! its not as clear as that! grow up now!

Reply corporations should have no rights, they work for us. instead of investors owning a company why not the workers? You dont need a gov for that. I'd rather a democratic socialist gov than a nondemocratic corporatist empire. because I care about the people around me, its not just about myself. Its our responsibility as human beings to take care of each other. period.

Reply just do it! we all have the power to do SOMETHING, yto greater or lesser extents, and yes, i know there afe those in extreme dificulty!

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 Post subject: Re: IS CHOMSKY "EVIL" ?
PostPosted: 2008-06-29, 09:13:16 pm 
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I have replied.

*thankfully* the author has somewhat distanced himself from his hyperbolic comments.

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 Post subject: Re: IS CHOMSKY "EVIL" ?
PostPosted: 2008-06-29, 10:05:34 pm 
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Thanks Aaron - I have also replied :
http://greglange.blogspot.com/2008/06/m ... nsult.html

We are not just playing word games here...bloody wars have been fought throughout the centuries, declared on the basis of certain words used, misused & abused - "EVIL" is just one example..."FREEDOM", "DEMOCRACY", "TERRORISM", "GOD", are other examples...and there are many, many more.

EXCERPT FROM GATWICK CITY FORUM - "WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO"
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"...Another aim of this Forum is to be seriously enjoyable - "Serious in intention. Light in character" (Wartime Brains Trust).

As I see it, 'blogging' is simply thinking in words - a conversation with others (and/or oneself) - rather like an on-going discussion of different ideas in a pub...

Some listen and say nothing...Some don't listen and just talk...Some say a lot - some don't. Some get angry and leave - some stay. Some are wise - some are not. Some get drunk with the sound of their own voices - some stay sober....

But ALL are welcome...welcome to share their views - or just listen...to come and go as they please

No idea should be judged stupid or irrelevant - some of the best ideas have come from those sources.

No one should be judged by the quality of their grammar or spelling...let history speak : some of the 'best educated' can become monsters.

Some of the ideas discussed will get people in an apoplexy of rage sometimes. This should come as no surprise...millions of lives have been lost in the cause of some of these ideas - and that will continue.

Words can heal or harm, kill and cure - they are powerful weapons of war and peace.

So let's be careful with words...but at the same time let's have fun with them - together."


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 Post subject: Re: IS CHOMSKY "EVIL" ?
PostPosted: 2008-06-30, 06:47:06 am 
Well, to me this bloke, Greg, is not worthy being listened to. His words are too categorical and imply a hidden bigotry. There's much to be done in the forums to pay attention to someone without valid values to support his conclusions.


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 Post subject: Re: IS CHOMSKY "EVIL" ?
PostPosted: 2008-07-25, 08:22:19 pm 
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CHOMSKY ON PORNOGRAPHY

http://reason.com/blog/show/127736.html


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